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By switching on and off each element you can create all possible verb forms: I work = present – so there is no past, no negative, no modal, no perfect, no progressive and no passive, all that remains is subject and verb in the present tense (although the full form still has an auxiliary which we will need to use for past and negative forms – I do work). I’ve got a dozen or so teaching methods that introduce I have got within the first few units and got(past), it just shows he has no idea what a British irregular verb table looks like, (rather than for the US) ‘got’ is both past tense and past participle. On this particular point, the difference between Am and Br is simply that (British) IRREGULAR verb to get has a different past participle to the one he has learnt. For us got is both the past tense and the past participle. Has he ever heard a British person use the past perfect expression I had gotten? Of course not = we had got, just like we still have got, a different way of doing it.

It would be useful to know if students are penalised one way or the other for these alternative usages – because to win the game, it helps to know how to play the game! I bet this varies from place to place, examiner to examiner! HUW- I can be anxious without being depressed. I’m anxious about little and big things. But depression is totally different. That’s when you sink into a state where you can’t really help yourself. With anxiety you can do certain things, you can manage anxiety in certain ways; you’ve got little techniques. With depression if it really takes hold I’ve found myself at one point I couldn’t get out bed because you can’t do anything, you can’t speak to people, you don’t want to see anybody, you don’t want to speak to people, you feel that everything’s too much, you can’t deal with anything. That’s a terrible kind of cloud that just comes over you and you can’t shift it. And that is a proper illness. This is something that’s got to be said as well, I’ve got colleagues, they mean very well, but when they talk about depression it’s like they’re talking about a bit of, ‘Oh you’re a bit worried about something?’ Uh, no, it’s not that. It’s when your life comes to a grinding halt. You can’t do anything. And you need much more than a bit of a friendly chat to get out of that. HUW- I think it’s impossible to deny that, because that’s part of who you are. And in my case it’s a matter of managing it. I can’t tell you there’s a trigger for this or a trigger for that. I know after my dad died a couple of years went by and suddenly I seemed to realise that he wasn’t there anymore, and that did trigger something. So, that’s a trigger. But other times I’ve had bouts of depression and I honestly can’t give you a trigger. So, therefore managing that can be a bit of a handful at times. And you’re also aware that you don’t want to offload this onto people because actually people have got their own stuff to think about. I don’t want to give my family cause for concern, so you try to manage it in your own way.

Likewise, an American will say both, but will tend to say have more than have got. Certain dialects of AmE will also use the nonstandard I got for I have, but whether this is an abomination or simply a facet of a non-prestige language is another debate.

It’s rare but we use it this way, and have been doing so for quite some time. Search Shakespeare (those of you who say have got is simply wrong and for ‘idiots’, bear in mind you’re calling Shakespeare an idiot), and you will find examples of have, have got, and have gotten, conforming with the usage I have described. ReplyI’ve got to do something is different from the have got possession form, because the former goes with a verb and the latter goes with a noun. HUW- Oh honestly. That’s just one example. Orphaned kids in Syria another example. There are loads of examples we could give. There are people in Ukraine suffering really badly. Does that have an effect on you? Well, you’d be a pretty odd person, wouldn’t you to be honest, if you weren’t affected by it. I teach ESL to level 1 adult students attempting to learn to speak and understand English. It is not a linguistic setting or grammar class. It is a class on conversational English. Therefore, I never, never introduce grammar into the equation when teaching have got. Why not? just read this thread!… In addition, it is irrelevant to understanding what your boss is asking you. You gotta work visa?

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